by Icelar
See also Chiara Regular by Icelar.

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Chiara is a decorative font evolved from Chiara regular, with lots of embellishments in ascenders and descenders, Higher caps, chopped-of letters and so on. Thanks to the wonderful/incredible/amazing set of bricks you can find here ( I could develop a hord of curvy stuff that was incredibly useful. (djnippa, I love you. Really. XD) This is still a work in progress, I'm redefinig some characters, and I want to add a new set of alternates to make this more versatile. Feel free to comment whatever you like/dislike.


That damn lowercase k is gonna KILL ME!!! Agh.
Comment by Icelar 17th august 2013
Maybe put the k down like this? k
Comment by opipik 17th august 2013
OK.... I'll try again. Thank u so much Opipik! =)
Comment by Icelar 17th august 2013
much better. I'll be working on that accents.
Comment by Icelar 17th august 2013
If you use this tool, you might find the angles you are looking for.
Comment by djnippa 17th august 2013
I didn't see the 'k' before, so I guess you have used djnippa's tool to find a good angle - also for the 'v'.
This design now has an elegant appearance and a lovely balance. 10/10

The only thing I would change might be the cross bars of the 'f' and 't', which I would bring down to the x-height. I would also reduce the height of the 't' a little ...
Comment by p2pnut 18th august 2013
Fiuuu... Thanks a lot Djnippa, I saw this before, but I lost the link, and now that i have it I conform is AWESOME!!! (jiggles)

And as always, p2p, thank u for your kindness and support. I'll change that crossbar.
Comment by Icelar 18th august 2013
Ok, people, since I've gone crazy with this font after I discovered the new bricks, I'll upload it again as it was before, in regular version, whith uppercase, accents and numerals, while I keep working on this thing. Thank you all for your useful comments. =)
Comment by Icelar 18th august 2013
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Comment by Icelar 19th august 2013
Looks like "Greaf for logos". t looks like an f.
Comment by minidonut 19th august 2013
You're right, mimidonut. That's what p2pnut said earlier. I had this samples already done, so I published them. But I'm re-doing a lot of characters right now. Thanks
Comment by Icelar 19th august 2013
Great font and samples. ß could have flourishes, and look more like "fs". There's also a stray brick on A and its variants.
Comment by V. Sarela (Yautja) 19th august 2013
Comment by Houlaiziaa 19th august 2013
Yautja: Excellent suggestion for sharp S. I'll fix that stray bricks and then redesign it. =)

Umbreon126: Much appreciated ;)
Comment by Icelar 20th august 2013
Eszet and A have been fixed. T has been improved, but I think it needs a little more work. Thanks everyone for all the support on this proyect. =)
Comment by Icelar 25th august 2013
Beautiful work, compañero! BTW, I'm with Yautja about the ß: in german, it's like a double s (ss): a mix of an old "s" style and the new "s" style. Here you are a sample of this evolution.
Comment by elmoyenique 25th august 2013
Comment by elmoyenique 25th august 2013
The "eszett" ligature seems to have been created during the 19th century. The 'f' looking letter was what we call the long 's' = ſ (unicode 0x017F). In modern German writing (hand, print) this has been replaced by the 's' we are familiar with.
Sometime in the 19th century the long 's' was combined with the 'z' that had a cedilla (ȥ as seen in printed Fraktur fonts, unicode 0x0225). It created a sharp sounding 's'. Looking at the development in elmoyenique's image, this explains why the 's' in example 3 looks like it has the upper curve turned to resemble a '3': the 'z' was written with a curved (maybe linked to the cedilla?) tail below the base line, which for some reason then slid upwards except for the descender of the long 's' (this descender continues in handwritten ß ).
A hint to that can be seen in the Kurrent-based font invented in 1911 by Ludwig Sütterlin, who added a curved 's' to be used at the end of words.
(should I have made an error here I hope that beate or other linguistically/typograghically more educated members will correct me)
Comment by Aeolien 25th august 2013
You haven't. And this is pretty helpful =)

I always thaught the only way of doing a proper eszet was the f+3 method, cause that's how I've seen it written here in spain in restaurants and hotels. But I've discovered lately in web forums and such fonts that have a much more similar eszet to the second, or even the third in elyemonique sample

I've been looking on the net for some kind of "type construction guide" or something like that, 'cause my knowledge about special signs (diacritics,eth,thorn,eszet, etc...) Is just lame. But I haven't found anything specifically made for type designers, nor much information about the history of this spetial characters, apart from Wikipedia, so if someone knows a good resource on this topic, I'll be really grateful.

Comment by Icelar 25th august 2013
I'd be interested also to find some type guide that showed how different characters could be adapted to different styles etc.
Comment by V. Sarela (Yautja) 25th august 2013
Or you can just put double ss for that eszett, just like Ray Larabie does sometimes in his fonts, for example:
Comment by kassymkulov 25th august 2013
You are correct Aeolien, the third example is a combination of old sharp 's' + 'z'. Architaraz is also right—sometimes they simply use 'ss' if the ezset is unavailable. With the ezset, whichever design you choose, i.e., the f+z or the f+s, it's your preference as both are used. The ezset, by the way, is pronounced more with your tongue curled downward to produce a harsh 's', mush like the hard 's' in Arabic; the same is applied to the digraph 'sch' in comparison to 'sh'. By the way, I am a linguist, so if you have any questions about those particular characters, i.e., edh, thorn, etc. just ask. You can also check out Quartzite—I've added all the necessary characters for extended European and Vietnamese, which is the only Asian language that uses the Roman alphabet.
Comment by sarreyn 25th august 2013
@Aeolien Acutally, it's not ȥ but ʒ (U+0292 LATIN SMALL LETTER EZH), so it creates "ſʒ".
Eszett is typographically s + s, so the standard used to be simply "SS" for uppercase eszett, however now there's a trend towards ẞ (U+1E9E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S), which looks pretty much like ſƷ.

And if you want to be fancy, something like ʃs/ʃʒ could be done instead.
Comment by Houlaiziaa 25th august 2013
That's another interesting thing. I always thaught the ß was only used in lowercase set and ss only in Caps, then I discovered there was actually a capital version (Umbreon's ẞ ) but, since It seemed pretty much the same thing to me, I thaught it was just an alternative version of the same lowercase ß.

Then, when I started fontstructing I saw the two different eszets, so I said to myself: hey, yo, that's a different letter, a letter you don't know anything about! Maybe it sounds different! or maybe it hasn't anything to do with the other, you know!! so I looked up images in google for the sharp s in use... and it's extraordinarily recent. Like, never seen an image with ẞ that was released before 2008.

So, I wonder, is it just a "trend" between typographical community, like umbreon says, or there's a specific rule for a enduring, perdurable use of ẞ? If so, how it appeared? I mean, there's a kind of typograpy congress or something like that? I'm not precisely the most informed person in that issues, but I think they must be extremely important...

Anyway, many thanks, Sarreyn, for your comments. I would love to hear more about another characters, especially about how they sound, how they're used, it's development through history and so on, is just that I think maybe that discussion should take place in another forum or a special page, and I don't think "general typography" it's the proper solution... meanwhile, this discusion is open here for everyone.

Also many thanks to Umbreon, though he got me on my nerves trying to find the misterious ʒ for half an hour. XD
Comment by Icelar 26th august 2013

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