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The collaborative and open spirit of FontStruct is unparalleled when compared to other sites. We already have a forum to share feedback on the tool itself, a forum to talk about typography, and a forum to get inspired and motivated.
However, today I've decided to focus more on the collaborative aspect of FontStruct. What initially drew many of us to this site was the wonderful creative critique between users. I haven't encountered another social design with as deeply ingrained sense of community as FontStruct. However, critique is currently limited to the specific pages of public fonts.
Today, I introduce a new forum. Share unfinished fonts and ask for thoughts on your work. Present small details of a font for inspection by fellow FontStructors. Upload screenshots of that frustrating "s" or "z" and work with the community to find solutions.
This is the next step in opening up FontStruct's amazing community and refining the collaborative process.
Please, FontStructors, upload only your own work to be criticized. Be courteous. Work together. Find inspiration.
Happy FontStructing!
Also, help with these chars?
Please be considerate of the feed. Thank you.
@winty I guess you got some help for that font already from others? Q/K look fine, and you could use johnorics' x.
The bottom one is cool too: I especially like the M, N and W, but the T looks a bit too much like a Q or an O, and the H could be mistaken for an N. Perhaps you should mirror the H? I don't know what to do about the T, maybe make it look closer to an upside-down I?
@j4s: Nice improvements to the original!
@Cohn I'll see.
I designed this in fontforge:
Youre one of my fav publishers, between your chess bit, your nonogram, side view, cheese, ....
oh! as I was looking through your collection I just got the coolest idea!
Hey, anyone here whow how to make 1/13 angles?
Help please! I worked on a font, saved, visited another font for inspiration, then returned to check before publishing: I find a blank brick. It held a composite, the final brick of a slope. This is my sixth font with a disappeared brick. The others I repaired (with a heavy heart at times, when there is more to do than just the BL and French/German diacritics or the glyphs are complex). But this one is rather annoying as the font has nearly 800 glyphs. And as you can see from the sample there are usually more than just 1 missing brick.
Question: is there a time-saving method to get that missing brick back into the blanked-out spaces?
Question: as I didn't work on that particular slope when I last saved the font but just added thickness to some verticals: why did the 3rd brick of the slope get lost?
Question: why do these strange saves happen? Why do bricks disappear even though they were saved previously? Why did my font 'unintentional' have bricks turn at some point, to show up in untintended positions?
Question: would it be possible to save a half-finished font intermittendly to our pc (as an option in the menu for example) to upload into a messed-up fontstruction, to avoid spending such extensive time replacing 1 brick into many hundred spaces?
Question: would it be possible to have a forum for technical problems (or is there one already which I didn't see in the list of 'help' pages?) as I feel that my question is not really related to the forum title.
@Aeolien: you can make a new composite and drag it over the empty one in My Bricks. It should replace all of them and keep the rotations (you might need to save and refresh the page). Hopefully that will work.
@ Yautja: thank you! It worked! Just made the composite, saved and a page refresh. 798 glyphs repaired in a few clicks ... :)
For some reason I can't comment on h1k765's fonts...
Is there still a way to delete our comments or change the image?
This would normally be for 'forum: FontStruct suggestions 4', but I'm getting a 500 error when I try to access it. I'm also getting a 500 error when I try to search in the gallery for 'forum', and when I try to submit a font to google, which is the main reason I tried to access 'forum: FontStruct suggestions 4'. I'm sorry for putting this in the wrong place, but, like I said above, the right place is inaccessible.
I have a burning request for advice from a more experienced person. I need some advice / help with aligning diacritics above a glyph with an asymmetric top.
I will post a image to better illustrate the ussue..
Thanks in advance
As far as I know, they should be aligned with the top of the letter, like this:
@ Sarela: Wow, That was probably the very last thing I would've thought it to be.
So to clear it up even further for me, in order to really know what I'm doing next time. In such a case I think there is actually an imaginary center line drawn from the glyphs actual center to the asymmetrical top's extreme. Am I right?
Thanks a lot so far.. :)
Yes, they should be aligned to the optical center, instead of the mathematical center, so they don't "fall off". Some more reading:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/develop/character-design-standards/diacritics
http://diacritics.typo.cz/index.php?id=12
https://ilovetypography.com/2009/01/24/on-diacritics/
Ok, very clear now. Once more thank you very much, this was more than just helpful :)
There seems to be a new "Feature" in the Fontstructor, where if you have the eraser selected, and you go to click on a block in the User & Custom Blocks, you erase it. Now, although you can easily hit z to undo (or select undo in the menu), I find this a terrifying thing, as I do spend a lot of time building the blocks I need in a decent work pattern for a project, and because I am already triple clicking and quadruple clicking all the blocks and tools because the Fontstructor is so unresponsive. That is, if I double click an item (block or tool) to select it, I am often left with the previously used block or tool. However, this is an extremely sporatic phenomenon, as sometimes I can just click once to select something, and sometimes it takes 3 or 4 fast repetitive clicks.
I use all sorts of mice, and always get the same result, too. I currently use a bluetooth mouse, but a Logitech or Microsoft mouse has the exact same result. These are all relatively new mice, as well. And I have absolutely no problems clicking other web elements outside of the Fontstructor design editor.
What's more is this UX issue has only shown up in the new HTML/CSS version of the editor, as I never had any problems in the old Flash version (and then it was always only a single click to select/activate something.
So, this new UX completely distrupts my design flow as it is. But now after I erase a few bricks after I made myself a nice composite brick I need, I double-click the pencil or another drawing tool and then double-click the brick I want in the user bricks section and HOLY CRAP do I get scared when my user brick, and the next one (as I double-click), disappears and the whole User Bricks section goes wonky.
Now although the new eraser would be a welcome feature if I could simply click once to select something in the editor UI, I am double, triple and quaduple clicking items and not selecting/activating them. So for now, please discontinue that feature until you fix issues with the UI not responding to clicks, please. And do fix it as soon as possible, please?
Hey, I'm new to Fontstructions working on my very first font ever.
Anyway, I'm not sure where to put this but I've encountered two glitches:
1: All the bricks I use to make verticle and horizontal lines on every leter I had built at the time were replaced by bricks I wasn't using. It was easily fixable and I fixed the problem immidiately.
2: I have a weird pixel attached to my U. I deleted it and it attached itself to my T. I deleted the T and it was gone. When I started rebuilding the T, it came back. When I rebuild the U, it attached itself to that. When I'm working on my Fonstruction, it's not there. It's only visible in preview mode, which means I'm unable to get rid of it. ny help would be appreaciated.
I give up. I just recreated my font and both glitches happened again. I'm done.
No edit button, sorry for the triple post. Anyway, I finished the Fontstruction, published it and downloaded it. I just tested it with Gimp and it looks just fine. I'm not sure what's with that pixel though. If you look at it before you download it, it just looks... weird.
Orbitline
@apostle92627 It appears that you have an extra brick in the letter V (far to the left on the grid)
And extra brick in the v gliph too, I se.
...see...
How do I get rid of them? They don't show up when I build my Fontstructions, only in preview mode.
I just tested it in Gimp. V is the letter that's affected with the extra brick but ONLY if there is two or more (it attaches to the one on the left of the furthest one on the right).
I fixed it. Someone on my font's forum told me how to fix it and I fixed it easily. It turns out, it wasn't glitched. I'm just blind. And new to Fontstructions.
@apostle92627 - And we are happy to have you here. We 'old-timers' were once in the same position as you, so we like to help out wherever and whenever we can.
Yeah, I appreciate the help and support. I love how I can just point and click to put a brick where I want it. It's very easy to use.
However, I would love to find a YouTube channel that does tutorials on Fontstructions.
New problem: Every time I download the font, it either says it's invalid (No idea how that's even possible), or I get a 504 time out error. I don't understand, and I'm very frustrated.
Okay, I created a test font, created a few random glyphs, saved it, tried downloading it and had the same issue.
@apostle92627 - I could not download one of my fonts either; hiccups like these happen from time to time here (especially with so many users & fonts being created), and the site owners will fix it, usually within a day or so. In the meantime, feel free to continue making fonts -- you'll be able to download them soon.
Okay, awesome and thank you.
@apostle92627 - I had plans to create such a YouTube channel, but that idea proved far more time-consuming than I thought it would. There are a good number of tutorials and resources here onsite, though!
Okay, I bookmarked both links to go over later. I just started learning Graphic design on Gimp and Inkscape with the help of YouTube channel Logos By Nick, and it occurred to me that I should also learn fonts (since it's hard to find fonts you can use commercially) so I can use my own in my graphics. So that was why I asked if there was a YouTube channel but I guess there isn't one.
There are a few FS videos on YouTube, but they're very basic. You already know everything in them.
I've been meaning to make a video series that covers EVERYTHING, but it has taken months of brainstorming just to come up with the type of design whose creation will allow me occasion to talk about everything. In the end I may have to do more than one...
FontSpace and DaFont are two sites where there's a significant number of users posting 100% free fonts. Well worth visiting - I post to the former myself, and recently have seen other FontStructors doing the same.
Awesome. Once you get started with your channel, hit me with a PM and I'll subscribe to it. In the meantime, I'll keep trying to learn how to make Fontstructions and also search DeFont and FontSpace for 100% free fonts. Thank you for your help.
Today I found out and learned a bunch of new technical stuff about font metrics. Since I had a bunch of fontstructions made (with thins as glyph alternatives included) that showed kerning issues uppon using the donwloaded *.TTF font file.
Usually I located and assigned sets of glyph aternatives to the Halfwidth and Fullwidth Forms (Unicode block). I did this because these codepoints were already assigned to A-Z character sets in advance, and this helped to keep everything more or less organized and assigned together in one block!
Today I found out that the kerning issues in these fonts were (at least partially) caused by the fact that I am using the Halfwidth and Fullwidth Forms (Unicode block) for this. It seems that this Unicode block is exclisively reserved for assigning monospace characters. Explaining why my fonts that have characters assigned to these codepoints do not include the custom set kerning values I entered for them when I used these fonts.
Now, I couldn't actually find definitive proof for this to be true, but it really making me believe that is what's going on. That the Halfwidth and Fullwidth Forms (Unicode block) does not support the use of a kerning table.
So I started to re-assign characters into different codepoints located in the High Private Use Surrogates (unicode Block) as a test to see if this would eliminate the issue. And It seems that this Unicode block does have support for a customized kerning table indeed!
I know this is isn't a request for support of feedback, but I thought I might as well share this useful information with you guys anyway, since I am probably not the only fonstructor that is designing glyph alternatives for my fonts and has trouble finding suitable Unicode spots to house these characters in (Preferably together) !!!
Cheers!
Hi. How can I make two fontstructions into the same font family? I tried to export them to TTF and open them in FontForge to change some font details, like font family, so it is under same font family, but it doesn't work :( Can I make multiple fontstructions under one font family right here? Or do I export it and change it post-production? But how to make it comply under FontForge to actually work as intended? I want to merge a Regular font and Bold font so I can choose them from Word list under one font family, and change between regular and bold version by just clicking the "Bold" button. That doesn't work, instead it makes the dots appear wider, it does artificial boldening of the font instead of changing the font face to the Bold variant. The font in the image is bold variant. It eighter picks the bold variant or regular, depends on which one I install first (and yes, I tried to select them both and install them both at the same time, it still install them one by one and completely randomly - doesn't solve the issue).
@Polda18 - Currently FontStruct doesn't allow for making 'families' of fonts - only single, 'stand alone' typefaces. You might have better luck with your questions on a FontForge forum.
Maybe. I already asked there. Thanks anyway :)
Do you actually plan to add support for font families in future? It would be very easy. I'd like to design my fonts in such way that they can be treated as font families.
@Polda18 - I have no clue if there are any plans in the future to add support for families, and I'm not certain how "easy" it would be to implement that concept here. I'm just a fellow user, trying to help answer general FS questions where I can...
Not really the right place but since there is numerous random questions asked in here already I might as well put it in here.
I notice that many of my incoming messages here at FontStruct getting flagged as spam, is there a specific reason for this, and perhaps, something I am unaware of, to manually manage this?
Errr...
Oops... wrong forum...
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