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Another tiny minimal font. As if there aren't enough... lol
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I don't know if you'll try to fix or update,
but I already enjoyed your 's', '%' shapes.
Another tip : you can improve the lowercase…
(But if you do so, they may look like my own font.)
Greetings !
EDIT: That is what you mean by rigid license, right? Also the 3 } was very recent, I was trying to make them both more recognizable while removing duplicates... but I introduced one instead xD
And I was really stuck on the x, and couldn't think of anything else. xP
> So that I can edit it myself ? :-))
Thank you, but I must decline : I shan't…
My 3x3 font is finished (almost satisfying),
and I need to keep its tricks private
before I release it to the public. :-/
(Once done, people shall ask for editions,
as in my last remarks with yours.)
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“That is what you mean by rigid license, right?”
> Yes, I think you were right by using it in turn,
since 1. your choices are yours (some are funny),
and 2. a non deriv' license respects the creator
(i.e. your hard work - time is money, after all.)
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“I introduced one (duplicate) instead xD”
> Yeah, the 'taquin' puzzle game as I already referred to…
I.e. a very slippery task : it can take hours, days, months…
(My last 2x4 font - full ASCII - was even more difficult !)
Be courageous and creative !
(If it's not always legible, it should be logical,
in order to shorten the learning curve…
we don't need another Morse code, do we ?)
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“How are the duplicates now?”
> Let's see quickly if it's valid now…
B.t.w. you can use my ASCII sorting v13 :
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
0123456879 .,;:!?'"`
_|()[]{}/\^*%$&@#=+-~
>> Great ! The 1$t complete ASCII 3x3 font on FS !
Now all we/I can submit, is legibility issues.
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“weirdest "I" ever, probably”
> I think I used it as the 'delta' symbol
(or an alternate 'A', even as the 'up' arrow)…
never as a 'I' ! LOL
(Actually, it doesn't mind a lot if it's cut ;
but it should be logical - compared to the rest…)
Tip : keep it full (big fool !-).
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“I was really stuck on the x,
and couldn't think of anything else. xP”
> Yes, I know… you're not the only one !
Tip : my solution uses a badly legible 'x' too,
though it's more logical in the lowercase series…
I mean, it's very interesting to get how you see
this letter at this size (compared to my choice).
Last tip : when you pronounce this letter,
how does it sound, precisely ?
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Plus :
• why are '7' and '8' are still permuted ?
• your **previous** '!' and '?' were OK…
• your '~' has an abnormal 'v' shape…
• really impossible with narrower digits ?
• the style is the last improvement to be done
• remember you can add more (UNICODE) characters
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I hope we can debate of the detail on my site,
in the near future…
Great job in finishing you ASCII FONT, Umbreon126 !
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0000.pdf
But since I cannot check their mapping at the moment (actually, I cannot install more fonts anymore - I'll use a specific tool soon), I wonder why there are 4 new vertical lines + 2 doubles ('R' and '{'), thus 6 (new ?) duplicates. Temp or not, it not quite important. CYA
> Let's see… I open Paint.NET, so as to draw quickly their possible glyphs (the total will be indicative, not exhaustive)…
>> See you very soon…
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“what you mean about narrower digits...”
> 2x3…
[Tip : 2, perhaps 3 of them are already used on FS.]
No cheatin' image this time ;-)
CYA
And if the vertical lines you mention are the ones at the end of the list, I'm a cheater |D (see image)
And have you tried BabelMap? It's like Windows' Character Map, but with loads more features (including viewing font that aren't installed), maybe that could help :)
EDIT: About the 7, I noticed it was like "l", so now I have to get something else xD
So.
“I made the 7 and 8 skinnier”
> Well…
• '7' is still 3x3, though a bit narrower.
B.t.w. '7' glyphs are also : 507, 386, 388, 381, 471 (*).
• '8' is now your only digit in 2x3, which is less homogeneous.
All right : the solution with your style is the following '8' :
443, or its mirrored 254 (*).
* : Just convert these Dec num (0-511) into big-endian Bin…
(e.g. pasted to Calc.exe, or via '[…] in binary' in Google Search)
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“I made the I look like 工 now, hopefully it looks better now :)”
> Agreed ! (B.t.w. your uppercase is all 3x3 - easier to remember.)
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“If the vertical lines you mention are the ones at the end of the list,
I'm a cheater |D (see image)”
> He he ! (You felt lazy ?)
Actually, there are different 3x3 glyphs for 'R' (hence your symbol),
but your current 'R' would look better there, IMO.
Therefore, if you need to keep the registered symbol into 3x3 (not 7x3)
you'll have to check a substitutive 'R'. (Look on FS if you need ideas.)
And now I see your copyright sign with the same flat parentheses. :-)
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“Have you tried BabelMap?”
> I'm unsure ; maybe not, thank you !
(I have a lot of viewers ; I may have downloaded it in the past years)…
“Viewing font that aren't installed”
> That's the much appreciated feature I saw in other (old) tools, cool !
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“About the 7, I noticed it was like "l",
so now I have to get something else xD”
> OK, ok… you need a X-Men class 6 to ruin our p'xy w□rld ?
Here we go @ 10'000 % (ImageShack.us just crashed beyond)…
[See the image.]
>> You can get a handful of 'l' out of 17 possible.
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Cool and long list of extra (non ASCII) characters,
but I'll need BabelMap to spot the (many) dupes.
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*Ouch !* I mispositioned '7' in my ASCII sorting v13 lately…
Nobody's perfect… so keep my advice : check the micro fonts with it.
You'll see that you don't share a //complete// ASCII font any longer.
(§ 3 of my preceeding long p0s+…)
CYA
The 8's you suggested, those are really clever ideas, I never would have thought of them but they are perfectly legible! It looks quite nice, too :)
The end is just a bunch of Cyrillic, though, to see if I could, no one should try to use it xD
> Do what you want (I'm here to see your own choices), but in general, as I saw even on FS, 'R' is the glyph #437 ; it looks like this :
XX
XX
X X
>> I let you apply the further logical and coherent changes if you retain this notorious 'solution'…
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“The 8's you suggested, those are really clever ideas, I never would have thought of them but they are perfectly legible! It looks quite nice, too :)”
> In your font, it should do the job ;
while in mine, it'd destroy the whole ! ;-)
B.t.w. 'never', 'impossible', 'smallest' and 'tiniest' are getting quite common words in this field of creation, even often overestimated on the web. That's the interest in micro design : either very childish (game), or super complicated (science). :-) (Drawing skills and UNICODE knowledge are other topics…)
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“The end is just a bunch of Cyrillic, though, to see if I could, no one should try to use it xD”
> Another micro font that uses a 'neighbour' language…
If you need to provide the basic Cyrillic in 3x3,
you'll get headaches at removing the dupes, IMO !
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0|+, I'm sure you'll strive to get your gold medal back…
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What time is it out there ?
(Here, it's very late… the miracle of Internet)
Right now it's 8:31 PM.
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All righ+, y0u needn'+ sleep ! :-))
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I jus+ DLed an upda+e 0f y0ur 'FS Rep+', wi+h +he s+andard 'R'.
B.+.w. I see and can inpu+ +he ©, which is 3x3 n0w as well.
BabelPam indica+es m0re c00l addi+i0ns… Very smar+, MapelBam !
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S+range msg ?
Ask me n0+ !
XX.
X0X
.XX
(I was heavy, I know…)
The precision is all these tiny fonts need…
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So :
• are you OK with your '0', and '3' etc. ?
Actually, which chrs are you still the most unsatisfied with ?
• 'm' + 'n' are logical compared to their UC, not 'q'…
• 4 or 5 baseline anomalies in your LC
(in comparison, I have 2 in my 3x3, and they are less visible ;
on the other hand you kept 1 LC more legible than mine,
but I had to choose the right proportion in the end…)
• It may be the first time I see 'S', 'Z', '6' and '9'
with this cut/flat form together ! Interesting…
As well as your 'B', 'P', '&' and '@' together !
• I think it can be improved on the legibility, in may ways,
but it'll/'d lose its style in the process.
You needn't reply.
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